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Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2821

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Having just spent a couple hours looking at old charts for the east coast of Florida, some observations:

1) The "bleech yard" is located everywhere from around Jupiter to north of the present St. Lucie inlet

2) Several maps from the middle 1800's clearly show an inlet NORTH of Gilberts Bar.

3) St. Lucie inlet also has appeared at various locations south of the present day location.

4) Jupiter inlet has meandered around and closed completely occasionally.

5) The original Ft. Pierce inlet north of the present location was shown on maps for a couple centuries.

6) No indication of any other inlets until you get to "Mosquito" inlet, the present Ponce Inlet
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2836

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Have you ever seen the inlet between old Fort Pierce inlet @ jack island and St. Lucie inlet on a map?
Right where it's supposed to be?
There's some cannon and ballast that need to be found down there!

Can't wait till moving day (back to Florida) and getting together with some "internet people" in person and do some treasure finding!
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2838

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No, I haven't. I did come across a map a few years ago that showed an inlet at Vero though.

Anywhere the lagoon is close to the ocean is a possible inlet in the past.
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2875

Didnt Romans map show the Y bleach yard on the side of a hill just to the north and west of the Ft Pierce Inlet?
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2878

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Here is a partial pic of Romans map showing the Bleach Yard. Based on this map I would say that the Bleach Yard was just west of Jensen Beach north of the Port Saint Lucie Inlet.

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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2885

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That's true, but Romans also shows the Indian and Banana Rivers joining at Sebastian. subsequent, more accurate maps by others show the "Bleech yard" well south of St. Lucie.
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 6 years 1 month ago #2929

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I believe the bleach yard is at Hobe Sound. On the west side of the intracoastal waterway is a very high ridge of snow white sand that is probably visible even from sea-certainly for the mast of a sailing ship. There is one particular area that is about 80 feet high. This is between St Lucie and Jupiter inlets.
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 5 years 7 months ago #6455

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BLEACH YARD alias HOBE MOUNTAIN
Daniel F. Austin

From the ocean at the Jupiter Inlet one of
the most remarkable natural features inland is a
hill called "Hobe Mountain." This hill is within the
Jonathan Dickinson State Park, and is presently
topped with a platform that makes a convenient
place to survey the surrounding countryside. Few
who visit the site realize the role in history this
promontory has played.
Although the naming of the hill dates from
the first Spanish occupation of Florida (1513-
1763), most of the early Spanish maps contain too
little detail for this inland feature. Still, it was
known at an early date to the Spanish mariners as
an important landmark for determining their
position along the coast. One of the first
references to the site was given by Calderon, the
Bishop of Cuba, in 1675. Yet, it was the maps
from the English Period (1763-1783) that brought
into common usage the name for the hill.
The first English surveys down the eastern
coast of Peninsular Florida were made in the early
1760s by W. G. DeBrahm and Bernard Romans.
While DeBrahm had a tendency to give sites new
names, usually commemorating rich or powerful
people in Europe, Romans attempted to retain the
old Spanish place names. It is from the Romans'
survey that we learn that the tall hill north of
Jupiter was ". . . the hill by the Spaniards called
Ropas Tendidas, and by us . . . (called) Bleach
Yard." On their map of 1776 Sayer & Bennett
wrote: "the Bleach Yard a High Hill full of white
spots remarkable Land Mark." These commentaries
are consistent with the later historical record that
Bleach Yard was also the place called by the
Spanish "Ropas Estendias." This idea, according to
Vignoles in 1823, was ". . .from the large spots of
land uncovered by vegetation, presenting to the
coasting mariner the appearance of linen spread
out on the hills. . ." Both the names "Beach Yard"
and "Ropas Estendias" continued in use well into
the Second Seminole "War and appeared on the
Hood map of 1838 and the Tanner map of 1839.
Another old name for the same site was
apparently given first by Stork in 1767 as
"Baldhead Mount." This appelation appeared
sporadically on subsequent maps, as on the
Jefferys map of 1792, and the Gauld map of 1794.
Following this time period it seems to have been
dropped. Even this descriptor alludes to a hill
with areas open of vegetation so that it seemed
bald.
These names give some of the natural history
of this particular site. First, they all refer to a
high hill which was either bare on top or had
many open spots that showed between the
vegetation. The vegetation of these high ridges
and hills was then and continues to be scrub. This
is a pine woods dominated by several plants
adapted to living under stressful conditions. The
trees are scrub pines (Pinus clausa), and the
understory of shrub layer is made up of a variety
of oaks (Quercus spp.), saw palmetto and a shrub
called rosemary (Ceratiola ericoides). Some
think that this habitat may have occupied these
sandy hills for about 15,000 years or even longer.
One of the striking features of this hill today
is that there are only a few open spots of white
sand visible from any angle. Even from the ocean
where early surveyors and explorers would have
seen it, the site appears as a dark green hill.
This suggests that it was changed markedly since
at least the middle 17OOs. The change has been a
maturing of the scrub vegetation so that it has
closed in the white sandy spots and made them
green. A time-frame for the change is still not
very good, since it is not possible to determine
when the final shift occurred. Indeed, we do not
know for sure that it has occurred only once.
Still, the hill continued to be called Bleach Yard
or Ropas Estendias in the late 1830s. Perhaps it
was a change that occurred after that time.
Such an interpretation of the disappearance
of the white spots is further supported by a shift
in the location of a place called Bleach Yard. In
the 184Os a place on Lake Worth began to be
labeled "Bleach Yard Haulover." Other sites in the
region were not named with anything resembling
this. Through the Third Seminole War the Lake
Worth site continued to be called "Bleach Yard
Haulover" and appeared, for example, on the Ives
Military map of 1856. On later maps the terms
Bleach Yard and Ropas Estendias finally
disappeared.
Although it has not been possible to pin
down the time "Hobe Mountain" began to be used,
it possibly dates from near the beginning of
Jonathan Dickinson State Park. The first part of
this name is clear enough in its origin, having
come from the Indians the early European visitors
found t h e r e - - t h e Jobe. This name has seen
various renditions on maps, from Hobe to Hoe-bay.
English map-makers saw this as a reference to the
Greek Diety Jobe, and Anglicized it to "Jupiter."
The name Jupiter is now applied only to a town
and inlet.
The second word "mountain" may seem out of
place in the flatlands of peninsular Florida, but historically it is not.
Many of the early 16OOs and
17OOs Spanish maps depict a range of mountains
down the center of the peninsula. While these
have been shown to be fictitious, the elevation of
Hobe Mountain does make it distinctive from the
surrounding lands. Although an average elevation
in that part of Martin County may be about 2O
feet, Hobe Mountain reaches up to 86 feet. Surely
this seemed like a mountain to people more
familiar with elevations ranging from sea level to
about thirty feet.
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 5 years 7 months ago #6464

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Way to go, Mad4. That's a nice in depth look at something that has often been debated.
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Re: Bleech yard and inlets 5 years 7 months ago #6465

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I have been up and down the intercoastal waterway in that area, and up and down the outer coast in that area many times. Both places have a large hill. The one near Stuart (on the Roman's map pictured) is now covered with houses, it is a high class area. No pun intended. The one by Hobe Sound, which is the one Tom speaks of, I think, is also a high hill, and it has some areas that are bald. There is also an area South of Jupiter inlet that is also fairly high, but not as high, and it too has bald spots and lots of pure white sand. It is a park. Juno dunes, or jupiter dunes. Something like that. Sounds like from Tom's link, that the one just North of todays Jupiter inlet is the most used one.
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Re: 5 years 4 months ago #7694

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Thanks Tom, I had wondered about that for a while also.
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