Allo, I agree, but first let's work on bill, or whoever needs it.

As they say, waltzing is like floating on air,. Modern day solo exhibitions.are no comparison to free floating waltzing.

I remember that old fashioned WW-2 song "In my arms, in my arms, ain I never gonna get a girl in my arms!

Can uni & tex join us? being as your feet hurt already.

Check !

Don Jose de La Mancha
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Absolutely.....watch your toes, girls.....



I'd like to revisit your statement.....

"good coffee time PBSRW#1. An interesting thing that you brought up, is there a dividing line between what we discern as organic (living) and Inorganic beings / things?

Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose, found that as you decend in our normal, preconceived conceptions, one reaches a point of non separation??"



An excerpt from our "friends" at Wiki.....

"Bose was the first physicist who began an examination of inorganic matter (metals and certain rocks) in the same way as a biologist examines a muscle or a nerve. He subjected metals to various kinds of stimulus—mechanical, thermal, chemical, and electrical. He found that all sorts of stimulus produce an excitatory change in them. And this excitation sometimes expresses itself in a visible change of form and sometimes not; but the disturbance produced by the stimulus always exhibits itself in an electric response. He next subjected plants and animal tissues to various kinds of stimulus and also found that they also give an electric response. Finding that a universal reaction brought together metals, plants and animals under a common law, he next proceeded to a study of modifications in response, which occur under various conditions. He found that they are all(metals and living tissues) benumbed by cold, intoxicated by alcohol, wearied by excessive work, stupefied by anaesthetics, excited by electric currents, stung by physical blows and killed by poison—they all exhibit essentially the same phenomena of fatigue and depression, together with possibilities of recovery and of exaltation, yet also that of permanent irresponsiveness which is associated with death—they all are responsive or irresponsive under the same conditions and in the same manner. The investigations showed that, in the entire range of response phenomena (inclusive as that is of metals, plants and animals) there is no breach of continuity; that “the living response in all its diverse modifications is only a repetition of responses seen in the inorganic” and that the phenomena of response “are determined, not by the play of an unknowable and arbitrary vital force, but by the working of laws that know no change, acting equally and uniformly throughout the organic and inorganic matter.”





What "Laws" are we talking about here?


..... and 'Mate

hi chess mate it is self explanitory, no ?. check.

Several,have asked me just what does our resident PHD candidate, Judy , look like. Fortunately I was able to obtain a photograph from her last employer showing her hard at work. It appears that being female, she insisted in being in her cherished finery.

Jose

Good evening: for some time I had noticed a small growth on top of my left ear. It left me a bit preoccupied since my former cancer had started from to much tropical sun exposure in my explorations. - no hat - and the tops of the ears are particarly sensitive to skin cancer.. So a few weeks ago I decided to get rid of it by mental suggestion.

--> archive.org/stream/scienceofpsychic024531mbp#page/n47/mode/2up go to chapter iv


I viualized it as a separate unit, such as say a carrot, then ordered the surrouding cells to block off all nutricion. I did this several times then forgot about it, since no visible reaction was taking place.

Yesterday, I remembered it, and when I checked, there was only normal, pink skin, it was gone, leaving no scar..

So you see, it does really work. Your mind has fantastic possibilities. BILL??

Jose

Don Jose de La Mancha wrote:
hi chess mate it is self explanitory, no ?. check.

Several,have asked me just what does our resident PHD candidate, Judy , look like. Fortunately I was able to obtain a photograph from her last employer showing her hard at work. It appears that being female, she insisted in being in her cherished finery.

Jose



You're just pouting because I was able to levitate the stone and you weren't.

Notice that my ears are covered. (To hide the earplugs I use for whiney employers)

Don Jose de La Mancha wrote:

It all boils down to frequencies.

Don Jose de la Mancha




More food for thought......



A SUMMARY OF SOUND THERAPY AND VIBRATIONAL HEALING CONCEPTS

Vibration is a primary force in the Universe and the basis of sound therapy:

* Principle of Vibration – everything is in vibration or constant motion – Keely’s Laws

* Resonance – every substance on earth and every bone, muscle, organ and microbe in
the body has its own resonant frequency.

* The composite of the resonant frequencies in the body make up a signature vibration.

* When the body frequencies are in harmony, the body is healthy; when body
frequencies are out of harmony, dis-ease results.

* Finding and balancing frequencies in the body re -establishes the rhyth m or flow of
energy in the body so that its natural processes can heal the body.

* Sounds produced by the voice, instruments or electro-mechanical devices can be used
to balance frequencies in the body.

The arena that is being addressed involves the use of sound as a healing modality. Sound has
been used since the most ancient of times in both individual healing and sacred performance.
Within the last three decades of the 20 th century the resurgence of various forms of sound healing
has produced remarkable results. Sound, both as pure tones and as music, has been found to
positively affect an astonishing array of physiological and psychological parameters. Among
these are the equalization of brain waves, increasing the depth of breathing, slowi ng heartbeat
and pulse, lowering blood pressure, reducing muscle tension, raising body temperature,
increasing circulation and endorphin production, boosting immune function, improving memory
and learning, decreasing clerical error, increasing endurance an d productivity, strengthening
digestion and decreasing depression (Campbell, 1997, p. 64) and, many others ailments and
conditions.

Sound therapies presuppose that the "music" of which we are made has become dissonant and
discordant and that our natural ratios or harmonies have been shifted into disharmonies, i.e .
ratios that do not support biochemical and/or structural integrity. Illness is seen as a result of this
disharmony or lack of integrity. On this premise almost all kinds of sound therapies will agree.
The belief that sound can heal and is profoundly implicated in health has ancient roots.

Pythagoras of Samos (600, BC) considered the father of western science, was deeply imbued
with the belief that sound, and sound ratios, are the primary forces that hold physical reality
together. The seven day week, and the seven note musical scale were direct results of his belief
that the seven visible planets were in ratioed orbits that created specific harmonics. Those
harmonics were believed to create a "music of the spheres". And his mathematization of
astronomy through music was to lay the foundations of western science and result ultimately in
the work of Kepler and Newton. Most importantly he believed that sound, audible and inaudible,
had distinct effects on the health and emotional well being of humans. He prescribed particular
music to calm and to balance biochemistry. In the early 17th century, Johannes Kepler would use
Pythagoras' idea of geometrical ratios and the music of the spheres to develop his laws of
planetary motions and finally accomplish the mathematical task of putting the planets in
elliptical orbits around the sun.




.............Read more here -> www.bioadaptech.com/concepts1.pdf

K Bill, time to revive ---------------!

Don Jose deLa Mancha

Judy, there is no doubt in what was being proposed, You have now posted several fascinating articles, shall we get into one of them? Tex & unicorn can decide which one.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Firstly Don Jose let me say how much I like your new avatar, very cute.

I have been giving considerable thought recently to 'healing', ...by touch, by thought, whatever way you choose to use.
A sentence you used in a previous post Don Jose, wherebye you said 'that you were shook up' after a girl died when you told her quietly to 'just let go'. My once daughter in law is a nurse, her Father had been ill and in extreme pain for some time. She said exactly the same as you did, and her Father quietly passed away. I must just add that she also has this 'ability' of being able to heal. I don't think you should have felt shaken up Don Jose although I do understand the reason why!
You have sucessfully treated and cured your cancer, by an alternative treatment. Many people have also been sucessfully treated by various other alternative methods of healing. I do however believe that there comes a time when a patient has just reached the point, just that one moment in time, that small moment, that whatever healing is tried, becomes out of reach for that person, and unfortunately dies. Call it what you will,.....fate.......God's calling, whatever you wish. But for that one last moment, that patient is out of anyones reach.
Now I am sure that Don Jose will come up with many possible answers, reasons, or possibilities. As I have said I am not scientifically challenged, and this is just my personal opinion, But I look forward with interest to a scientific response to this, for I know he will surely have one.

Take Care Uni

Don Jose de La Mancha wrote:
Judy, there is no doubt in what was being proposed, You have now posted several fascinating articles, shall we get into one of them? Tex & unicorn can decide which one.

Don Jose de La Mancha


Please do, Amigo's.

I will be taking a "sabbatical" for awhile, but will check in when I can.

I have to agree with a post by our friend Bill USA......over 8800 views on this topic in less than 5 months is a good indicator for the interest level in the various subjects we have broached relating to Healing by Intent and Mind/Body interaction. And we have only scratched the surface.

It is my hope that it will continue to draw interest and participation....and that the many psychological factors that have limited participation thus far can be acknowledged and addressed in such a way as to benefit those still "hesitant" to throw their hat in the ring ( Ole`!! ). As you and I have stated time and again.....this is not a "Solo" discussion...or a monologue. It's a community dialogue.....so post my friends!!

Some points to ponder in my absence (Ya'll really didn't think I could go quietly....didja'? ) ......

Fears of Acknowledging Consciousness As the First Principle in Health and Healing

www.wholistichealingresearch.com/91benor.html


Ya'll have fun................

K money grubber, will try to carry on sniff but, sniffff

Don Jose de La Mancha

Hmmm......a quiet bunch, aren't you?

Tayoper, it looks like we have been forsaken..... ..... perhaps we should temper our science with a little spirituality once again.

Of course......it could all be the same thing, depending on how you look at it....eh?

Does "Healing by Intent" bridge the gap between Religion and Science? Are Prayer and Intention the same thing?

Dr. Larry Dossey takes on these questions and more in his essay to scientific critics of prayer experiments.....


ARE PRAYER EXPERIMENTS LEGITIMATE? - TWENTY CRITICISMS

Larry Dossey, MD, and David J. Hufford, PhD


INTRODUCTION

The idea that conscious intentions, in the form of prayer, can affect living organisms is an ancient and universal belief spanning ideology, religion, culture, and race. Anthropologist Stephan A. Schwartz states, “The shamanic cave art of Altamira, Tres Freres, and Lascaux presents compelling testimony that our genetic forebears had a complex view of spiritual and physical renewal, one that has survived to the present unchanged in at least one fundamental respect. The intent to heal, either oneself or another, whether expressed as God, a force, an energy, or one of many gods, has consistently been believed to be capable of producing a therapeutic result.”

In the past 2 decades, this ubiquitous belief has been increasingly subjected to scientific scrutiny. In 1988, cardiologist Randolph C. Byrd, of UC San Francisco School of Medicine, published the first randomized controlled trial (RCT) involving distant intercessory prayer. Since then, investigators have continued to explore in controlled trials the possible effects of remote prayer and healing intentions in coronary heart disease, AIDS, infertility, and other clinical conditions.

Prayer research did not originate with Byrd’s provocative study, however. Numerous controlled experiments exploring prayer and distant healing have been done in nonhuman subjects since the 1960s. Significant among them is a series of experiments by psychologist Bernard R. Grad, of McGill University. Grad explored the influence of healing intentions on the rate of healing of surgical wounds in animals, the growth rate of animal tumors, and the rate of growth of plants and microbes. Similar results were obtained by successive investigators building on his methods. Succeeding studies involved increasingly objectifiable end points, such as the rate of hemolysis of red blood cells and the kinetics of specific bio-chemical reactions.

Experiments in nonhuman subjects are important because they eliminate the placebo effect, one of the most common objections lodged against human studies. Of the eight major controlled clinical trials of prayer and distant healing in humans that have been published to date, four have yielded statistically significant results. Both the human and non-human studies in distant healing have been the subjects of recent reviews and systematic and meta-analyses.

All but one of the systematic and meta-analyses of the human experiments in prayer and distant healing that have been published to date have been generally positive, and even this review concluded that the evidence, although inconclusive, was interesting enough to justify further study. A variety of objections to prayer experiments have understandably been raised. We will comment on the most common of them .......

Read more here ....

www.scribd.com/doc/6777703/Prayer-Experiments-Dossey


About the Author ....

www.dosseydossey.com/larry/default.html

"I used to believe that we must choose between science and reason on one hand, and spirituality on the other, in how we lead our lives. Now I consider this a false choice. We can recover the sense of sacredness, not just in science, but in perhaps every area of life." - Larry Dossey, M.D.

And video........


Larry Dossey on The Power of Prayer

Part 1




part 2




part 3

. G'afternoon oh elusive one: I see no objection to that, after all one is using the same factor in either religion, a belief, or semi self hypnosis to concentrate their thoughts.

It has been positively proven that every thought in a brain generates a measurable field which can be directed with a bit of training. What we still don't know is the necessary level of receptiveness of another brain to this subtle energy, but evidence says definitely. yes, and in such minute quantities that we simply can't measure it yet other than by reactions of the organisms.

Some what similar to fluorescent tube effects and radiation on living organisms. To date I know of no mechanical method of measuring a long term effect of fluorescence lighting etc. on living organisms,except by observing the accumulated effects on such organisms.

Plants make an excellent asccumulative bio-indicators, especially fast growing ones, such sprouting beans
.
Don Jose de La Mancha

P.S If they show any interest Judy, I iwll show them how to grow flowrers in the living room, bed room, or even in the basement..

Good Morning to you Don Jose.... 'They' 'They' who may I ask is 'They'. If you mean other posters in this thread, well .... sniff I have posted my opinion a couple of times, with no response back. Maybe they are'nt scientific replies, just opinions etc. But I can assure you they are none the less as important to me as yours are to the other posters.
Consider yourself duly told off Mr.C. all in good fun tho eh!..........'They' indeed... sniff


Take care all and have a nice day from a still smarting Uni

: Did luv I did forget to address you specifically, but Knowing that you are a gentile lady from Britland who favors OIRISH guys, ------

Don Jose de La Mancha

Unicorn, why do you think that I have been keeping 'our' kiddie picture to use as my avatar all of these years if ------- :woohoo :

Don Jose de La Mancha

You have him stuttering, Shirley.....heheheheheh

I see I am leaving you in good hands, Tayoper..... .....'soft landings', Amigo....

Looks like you had a little reprieve with the site going down for a few days, Amigo. lol

Now dust yer britches off and get back to posting.....