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Re: Kolchak's Gold 7 years 3 months ago #11560

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An amazing discovery hapened when archivists discovered to book of Phographs of the Russian Crown Jewels....

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The heat of day is subsiding and cool enough for me to continue the story...

just recently there was a discovery....

Four previously undiscovered photos of undocumented Russian Crown Jewels were recently discovered in the USGS library. The photos appear in a 1922 album called “Russian Diamond Fund,” that was uncovered in the rare book room of the library.

The four unique photos were originally part of the personal collection of George F. Kunz (1856-1932), a mineralogist and gemologist, gentleman explorer, and employee of the USGS and Tiffany & Co. These four photos are unique because they are not included in the official documentation of the Russian Crown Jewels, “Russia’s Treasure of Diamonds and Precious Stones,” published in 1925. The USGS also has a copy of this 1925 publication in Kunz’s collection.

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Russia’s Treasure of Diamonds and Precious Stones” is considered the most complete inventory of the Russian Crown Jewels and 22 of the photographs from Kunz’s 1922 album appear to be the same images used in the official Russian 1925 publication. The four pieces portrayed in the album discovered by the USGS that do not appear in the later publication include a sapphire and diamond tiara, a sapphire bracelet, an emerald necklace, and a sapphire brooch in the shape of a bow.

Researchers have determined that the sapphire brooch was sold in London in 1927, but the fate of the other three pieces is a mystery to this day. USGS librarians are trying to trace the history with assistance from experts from around the world.

“This 1922 album contains photographs that document the Imperial Crown Jewels and augments the official 1925 catalog with images of pieces that were not previously known to exist,” said USGS Library Director Richard Huffine. “The USGS has preserved this collection in obscurity for over 75 years, and now that it’s been discovered, we’re excited to share this material with the world to support research and understanding of these rare materials today.”

“Russia’s Treasure of Diamonds and Precious Stones” collection contains 100 unbound plates with accompanying text and was published as the inventory of the Romanov jewels. The USGS Library’s copy of “Russia’s Treasure” is missing two plates, but is otherwise in excellent condition. A different copy of “Russia’s Treasure of Diamonds and Precious Stones” sold on auction at Christie’s in 2007 for £72,000, over $141,984.

Here is a picture of the diamond and saphire tiara

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Re: Kolchak's Gold 7 years 3 months ago #11563

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Sorry have to have these little breaks to sit and watch the sun go down with a Rum, so please have patience...

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Here is a picture of the Emerald necklace. It should be noted is shown for photograph purposes at the time in 3 peices.

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Of course I should show you the Saphire bracelet.

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That rum went down nicely....

Much better...

And here is the picture of the missing brooch.That turned up in London in 1927.

The album “Russian Diamond Fund,” however, is believed to be the only copy in existence. The album begins with an exquisitely hand-colored title page, followed by 88 photographs of the Romanov jewelry with descriptive captions in Russian.

The rich history of the Russian people is reflected in the origins of the Imperial Crown Jewels of Russia. The jewels were worn by the Romanov Royal Family (1613-1917) until they were seized by the new government during the Russian Revolution and secured in secret until 1922. In 1922 the jewels were unpacked and a full inventory taken. The “Russian Diamond Fund” album dates to the same year and the photographs appear to have been part of the initial inventory.

“These images are unique representations of a bygone era-taken at a key moment for Russia, buried in quiet bookshelves for almost a hundred years, then rediscovered to add one more tiny but important part to the infinite puzzle of history,” said USGS librarian Jenna Nolt.

Research was conducted by USGS librarians in collaboration with the Hillwood Museum and the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C. and the


This diadem was one of the four undocumented jewels.

Gemological Institute of America in Carlsbad, Calif. to find additional information on the historical value of the photographs and information on the four photographs of unique pieces from the 1922 album.


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One thing to understand is the 1922 portfolio was published in 1922 the photographs could of possibly taken earlier before the Russian revolution? Thus the missing gems could of been part of the treasury that was captured by Kolchak when he captured the bank at Kazan? see picture.

Of course it is fair to say it could have been looted in soviets hands or a number of senarios. However the fact none of those peices have never seen the light of day as far as we know since?

Are they now lost at the bottom of lake baikal? Somewhere in japan or china? Or hidden somewhere in Russia or even in Ireland or America or even England?

The mind boggles as the possabilities.....

But perhaps those gem ended up in the hands of ex Russian nobility?

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The weather hot and humid and its way past my grampa nap time. And the rum has dulled a little the relentless humidity. Anyone out there frezzing their ass off could you send some cool air my way.

Anyway contining the yarn...

One theory that the missing jewelery ended up in the hands of princess Marina who was related to the Russian grand duchess.

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In the following newspaper article Nambour and North coast chronicle dated September 7th 1934: treasure was returned to Princess Marnia after years of legal wrangling.

A large amount of treasure was handed back by the British to Princes Marina

Was the missing parts of the Crown jewels the tiara Necklace and bracelet in part of the treasure returned to her?

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It appears many years later

Princess Marinas gems came up for sale at christies.. needless to say the missing peice of the Russian royal crown jewels was not among the items on sale.

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That Rum went down nicely.

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Princess Marina had an exquisite collection of gems hereself and the one shown in the this picture looks a little like part of the diamond brooch. But on closer inspection it it clearly not the missing or alleged sold off brooch in 1927.

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So perhaps we could rule out surving Russian nobility for now? Perhaps we should look at the nobility a little closer to London?

Perhaps we need to take a look at the British Queen Mary?

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Wheb Christies had an aucton of the Royal Crown jewels. Queen Mary had a privateviewing of the Russian Crown Jewels as reported The West Australian newspaper 19th of march 1927. The very year the missing Brooch was alegely sold in London.

Did agents acting on behalf of Queen Mary buy the brooch? And it ended up in her private collection?

Who could not be offically be seen to be picking over the gems of the late Russian Royal family like a vulture.

A mystery indeed?

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The sun has set and perhaps a rum is in order?

Anyway continuing the story.....

Queen Mary may have behind the purchase of the brooch? Buit not conclusively proven either.

In regards to the missing identified crown jewels it appears One was bought, Christies thought the collection would have fetched 250000 pounds. However many peieces was never sold. The British government actively discouraged people buying the jems because it was claimed it was used to fund soviet communist activists in America and Britain. The sale fetched about 80000 pounds and fell very short of expected return. As you can see the return reported from the gem sale in the Northern Times 25 march 1927.


Some were later given as collateral from Soviets for a loan from the Irish free state of a megre 25000 pounds.

The missing brooch however appear to have been bought in London. There is no records of the other 3 pieces. So if they were not in the Crown Jewels collection, or in the jewel collection belonging to Princes Marina, or in the hands of british royals was those missing gems part of Kolchak's captured treasury from the bank of Karzan treasure?

Was they stolen some time after the photographs was taken in the book the "Russian Daimond fund 1922 addition?

so we must confirm where the photographs was actually taken....

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Hello again my patient readers of this Russian treasure mystery.

That Rum has gone down well to lubricate the typing fingers... :laugh:

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To discover the date of when the actual photographs was taken we need to know about the man who took the photographs for the 1922 Russian Diamond fund book?

His name was George Fredrick Kunze a gem specialist with Tiffanys jewelery company.

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continuing the story.

To understand the story we need to understand who George Fredrick Kunze was?

Digging through archves we were able to uncover and confirm the claims states by the Libary of congress.

The following document is biographical entry for George Fredrick Kunze in the Califonia State library in 1906

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I wish this heat would go away! Any of you out there in the snow can you send some cold my way? :laugh:

Any continuing the story about mr Kunze...

Digging further we found George F Kunze passport application for 1899.

Searching shipping records to seems George F Kunze made a trip to europe around 1905. The was diamond esposition in Russian at the time when the Czars diamonds and the Russian crown jewels was on display to select few. George Fredrick Kunze was one of the lucky few. I must add there is no record of him ever leaving the United States till his death.

Who got to take those beautiful photographs of the Russian Crown Jewels. So the 1922 Russian diamond Fund portfolio might not actully reflect all what was actually in the collection nor did the 1925 addition with the four missing gems?

Therefore we could speculate that there has never been a photograph of the full Russian collection to date?
An what of the missing gems they could of been housed in the Russian State treasury and in the Russian Revolution be part of the treasure kept by the Soviets at the Bank at Karzan until captured by Kolchaks White Russian forces?

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By now one can see how many stories and version of versions in the The following video

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Here is a documentary telling the story of the fate of kolchak and various claims of events 13 stolen cases of gold, A training wreck with some of gold failing into the lake.Or treasure hidden in a monestary. A deal between the Soviets fleeing Czech troops across Siberia to Valdivostock. Possible crates shipped out of the country or a hidden cave near Valdivostock.

A real mystery for history buffs or any treasure hunter daring to dream.

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As you can see as the Russian Empire desintergrated so did the imperial treasure via various senarios.

The following story is strange telling of some fleeing Whites finding a gold lake in siberia? Was there any truth in the tale or cover for hidden gold via fleeing kolchaks white Czech legion?

The following newspaper story dated 18th of August 1934 a ex white russian Engineer by the name of M Yurleff who clain he foun a gold lake but was caught with gold by the soviets and jailed for 19 years. But succeded in escaping on their 3rd atempt but only he survived. He managed to reach india and was looking to return to Russian to recover the gold?

One story many that could possibly clound the issue many Russians left behind their fortunes and found themselve pennieless in a foreign country and many spun tales to get financial support on the promise of awaiting fortune or knowlege of buried loot etc...

Was this another sympathy tale or some thing more to it?

I let the reader decide...

However it is one of the many exampes later ex White russians used to garner support.

So some of there stories one has to take with a grain of salt. Like with all treasure legends as the years go by the story becomes more and more cloulded.

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