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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #7996

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Somewhere online is the 1902 Florence quadrangle USGS topo, is that old enough? I can't find it this moment but it is definitely online somewhere.

One last bit on the Spanish soldiers and their armor; in the time of Coronado it was customary for each soldier to have an armor-bearer, usually an Indian servant or slave, that packed the heavy steel around until the call for battle came. Also if there were losses the armor might get stashed rather than pack it back. Just a thought.

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If you are mentioning the map to me....I definately will look for it...raining at the moment and it has slowed the mowing process way down....before I look however I will say that this is what the area looked like in my dream....


I don't want anything to influence what I saw....I will try and draw it on "paint" please forgive the chicken scratches. Again if I am wrong I have been before.....I have not looked at anything on the matter as I know I will never be able to even begin to try and look for the mine as it is too far away....so....here we go. I will post a picture I have tried to sketch....then try and find your map.... This image is hidden for guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #7997

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must be doing something wrong...I can't find a map using 1902 Florence quadrangle USGS topo, does anyone have a map of the area....even a resent one?
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found this picture....although the background looks OK....the Needle as I call it seemed so much taller and pointed...the rubble around the bottom seems correct...does anyone know if there is another rock in the area that is taller? also it is the wrong angle I think I need to be to the right of that rock unless there is another which is taller. This image is hidden for guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8000

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MUCH CLOSER!!! This is actually almost it! but I see nothing that looks like a horse and I still feel I need to be off to the right. That mountain is almost exactly it....could it have fallen? This image is hidden for guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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OK this is nuts...just found a Topo map...I don't have a clue as how to read one...but what I found visually interesting was that the map shows a trail that almost looks identical to the horse head I originally drew. I am still trying to find anything that says something about a stone horse or horse head on horse drawing.....please if anyone knows about one...chime in...my fingers are getting tired. Is this the map you were talking about Mrs. O? This image is hidden for guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8004

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Just found a painting by Remington about Coronado's expedition through the Superstition Mountains. I had thought he had passed through there as he had been in Texas for sure not to far from where I live. This image is hidden for guests. Please log in or register to see it.
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found a website with something called the Peralta Stones. One is a carved stone horse....a huge stretch but the horse in the map is reversed to the way I saw it in my dream...is my map reversed? I have no idea...just became interested in this subject for some reason. One fact for sure...it will encourage more dreams that I will be taking notes in for sure.

www.desertusa.com/ldm-1/peralta.html
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8034

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Hola mi amigo TexasTee!

Interesting sketch you did, and many points you raised. I don't wish to influence your image, but would add that the modern photos of Weavers Needle are not what it formerly looked like, during the good old days of dynamite and dreams, several people including Celeste Jones did their best to blast down the rock pinnacle, in the theory that was where Waltz had his mine. So it looked differently years back.

Weavers Needle and Picket Post are visible for very long distances, Picket Post is taller, really a mountain in fact. A number of rich silver mines were discovered around Picket Post, especially to the north but also to the south.

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<Not my photo, this one is shot from Boyce Arboretum which is due W>

Miners Needle is not visible from great distances, some of the other pointed peaks like Picacho and Sombrero are probably too far away.

The Peralta Stones are another kettle of fish; recent revelations seem to indicate they were created by the fellow who claimed he found them, Travis Tumlinson, as his relatives claim they witnessed him making them, and the fact that he also carved several other stones in Spanish treasure type themes, it seems highly possible they are a modern fraud. My saying that will probably get someone mad at me but the stones are very questionable in my opinion, no offense intended to anyone.

Good luck and good hunting amigos I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8035

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Bill-USA wrote:
What is this Mr. O? You only get on at or after midnight? Your keeping mighty strange hours my friend.

May you be blessed!

I divorced the clock a few years ago and have never missed it since. However I can only get online when the opportunity is there, so nights and some late nights are it, have to take advantage of the time when you can.

I hope all is well with you amigo, and God bless you!
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8039

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Hello Oroblanco and Texastee

Oroblanco late nights is my afternoon siesta time in the islands B)

Your summer is my winter if you could call it winter. I have lost that clock also,,, Killed the alarm clock a few years ago :lol:

Never going back.....

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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 7 years 1 month ago #8048

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I tried very hard to revisit the dream I had....no concept of North, South, East, West....but there was a mountain range in the background with the tall structure in front to the right was where I could find the mine....I did not know about all the others so I only assumed it was the Dutchman...I could clearly see a huge amount of what looked like Spanish Treasure as there was the helmet. Again with all the snakes...what ever they might represent it was almost as if they guarded the place...LOL So many so thick...and nasty boogers....These would almost come after you....a warning perhaps. It was almost so hot there that it takes your breath away.
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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 6 years 5 days ago #12561

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Howdy Oroblanco

Don Jose and others have been missing your posts. Ya been a little quiet lately or have you hit the mother lode?

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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 4 years 11 months ago #14429

speaking of missing posts Kanacki, get movimg again/ You have had enough time to recuperate from your dream voyage.

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Re: The Curse of the lost Dutchman Gold mine 4 years 11 months ago #14432

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Hello Don Jose

How are you these days?

I am off to look at another schooner to Buy. Its in Thailand. I am considering taking over its charter which is for tourist cruises on the coast of west of Thailand. My oldest son will be the captain and he and his wife will run it on behalf of the family..

Gaff schooner rigged. registered in Malaysia built in 2006 in Indonesia. She set up for 12 passengers in 6 cabins. A captains cabin, crew quarters and engineers cabin , plus an owners stateroom.

Sh................Depending what I do if I decide to do I might Shanghai that scruffy old pirate of a beach bum tropical tramp now wasting away his ill gotten gains in some casino somewhere and in the company of women of dubious character.

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